There’s An App For That…And For This
If you haven’t seen an iPhone ‘there’s an app for that’ ad then you haven’t been watching tv…at all. And I’ve been shouting at the tv each time they come on about how I have the same app on my Fuze and typically I’ve had it for a while – there just isn’t a glossy tv ad about it. Finally the commercial about leveling a bookshelf with an iPhone threw me over the edge. When I got my Fuze I remember showing off the gsen configuration that’s just a bubble level and everyone greeted my shiny toy with a bunch of mehs. Now that it’s on the iPhone those same people tell me how cool the iPhone is and when I remind them I showed them the same thing on my phone months ago I get ‘yeah it’s really neat that it’s on the iPhone just like all of those other apps it has”. The time has come to go through their commercials one by one and compare apples to windows… And let’s remember the ads claim “there’s an app for that only on the iPhone’. The ads are on Apple’s site here, so let’s see how honest Steve is with us.
The first ad is named Check:
If you want to check snow conditions on the mountain there’s an app for that
In our forums back in December I posted about this but never thought it had enough popularity for the main site. It’s the REI Ski and Snow Report which is a Zumobi panel (essentially a widget). They describe it as follows
Winter is never long enough, so make sure you spend your time at the mountain with the best snow this year! The REI Ski and Snow Report will keep you up to date on the best conditions at over 1800 resorts worldwide.
You can track New Snow, Lift Status, and Weather Forecasts — all easily accessible from your phone.
The download link is here and it is free.
If you want to check how many calories are in your lunch there’s an app for that
There’s a host of WinMo apps that do this. One of the fancier ones is VidaOne’s MyPersonalDiet which has a library of 7500 foods but it goes beyond this and has monitoring and tracking functions, can synchronize with your PC and has a host of other functions that go far beyond calorie tracking (it is $25).
If you want a free application that just tell you calorie count there’s Calorie Tracker or Calorie Counter. In fact Microsoft wrote an entire article on this stating “Believe it or not, you can easily transform your Windows Mobile phone into a portable personal trainer, step counter, meal planner, and even heart-healthy food database. ” You can read it in full here.
And if you want to check where exactly you parked your car there’s even an app for that
We wrote up on GParkS last month. Just to belabor the point, we could also always use FootPrints to take a photo of the spot, use the GPS to map it and go back to it (or just GMaps without GPS), leave a voice note about the spot and we may as well add a written note all of which will be bundled together and linked to Google Maps.
The next ad up is Fix
If you need to find a taxi cab in a strange city there’s an app for that
Ok I don’t think we have a standalone ‘taxi’ app and I presume there never will be. We have two great apps on our phone that handle this already. Just fire up Live Search and it will locate you (either off of GPS or using cell tower data) and you can search for a keyword of taxi or in the case of Live Search say the word ‘taxi’ and it will search for you or you can go to Categories – Transportation – Taxicab Services (or Limousine Service if you’re feeling up to it:)). In Google Maps it’s similar (without the ability to speak a search query) and just go to Search and type in taxi and it will find you a taxi.
or figure out your share of the bill for a table of 5
You can try Fuzzy Bill Splitter or Tippy or KshrTips. They’re all pretty much identical – it’s just a question of which look you prefer. They’re all free and work to split the bill for you if you’re not up to using the old calculator:)
or fix a wobbly bookshelf there’s even an app for that
Go to Settings – System – GSensor and you’ll see the gsensor calibration tool which is a bubble level. You can also try Bubble Level which is a larger bubble level with degrees (so you can tell if it’s exactly even or 1 degree off) and it even has a light meter included.
Next ad up is Read
If you want to read a restaurant review there’s an app for that
Again I’m going to cheat because I don’t need 100 different apps – I’d rather have an app like…well let’s say Google Maps and when I go to search for a restaurant the reviews are included in a tab.
If you want to read an MRI there’s an app for that
You could use heartit.com which is entirely web based. If you want an application you can use a DICOM viewer like DICOM Viewer Medial Image Tool. Obviously viewing on our high resolution VGA screen like the Fuze should be considered a minimum something as sensitive as this. If your doctor is too busy to look at the MRI on a full screen and opts for a handheld you’re probably at the wrong office though.
And if you just want to read a regular old book there’s an app for that
Microsoft has the Microsoft Reader for free and it even links to an online ebook store. Google also has a host of free and paid ebooks.
The next ad up is Shazam
You know when you don’t know what song is playing and it’s driving you crazy? With the Shazam app from the AppStore you just hold up your iPhone to the song and within seconds you’ll know who sings it and where to get it.
If you want the same exact app for your phone just download Music ID from AT&T. The pricing is different (it’s a monthly fee instead of a one time fee) but it’s otherwise identical.
Let’s move on to the next ad called Loopt
Staying in touch with friend can be tough but if you have Loopt from the AppStore you know what they’re up to, where they are and if they want to grab lunch.
This is almost identical to Google Latitude which links to text messaging and as we all know Latitude automatically keeps your friends posted on your location and without GPS to save battery life so it’s a neat app and it’s cross platform (it can even be viewed from a PC, on a BlackBerry, on a G1…). And similarly you can manually ‘update your status’ with whatever you are doing. Of course, with multitasking this will run in the background if you want it to so it can keep tracking you without you manually doing it (yup, that’s a dig:))
Next up is Urbandspoon
You know that aged old dilemma, where should we eat tonight? Well with the Urbanspoon app from the AppStore you can find restaurants nearby.
Urbanspoon is actually a website so feel free to just browse over there. I’ll give the iPhone one here – there’s no ’shake until the phone randomly picks a place to eat app’. Can’t image why – sounds far more advanced than the old throw a dart at the phone book method
There’s no shortage of apps to find places to eat. Take Google Maps, Live Search or just head over to EarthComber.com (if you do it using the Iris browser it will have the iPhony look you want and it is location based as well). They all locate restaurants based on location.
Next up to the plate is GameChanger
So what do you want your iPhone to be today. From the MLB App from the AppStore it can be a score checker, live pitch updater or a video highlight reel.
If I wanted to see what was going on with a game I don’t need to look at a cartoon image of pitches. I’d fire up the old SlingBox or maybe even Orb and just watch a real time stream of the game. You know, the real game, not something like the game. If I wanted a score update just about every mobile website has that at a glance so just add a bookmark.
Last up is Lonely Planet
The audio from this one is just promotion of the AppStore. The app itself speaks 600 Chinese phrases (I think it came out right before the Olympics).
Lingvosoft has paid software that has phrase books for English to each of the following: Spanish, Russian, Italian, Portuguese, French, German, Greek, Polish, Chinese mandarin (simplified or traditional), Japanese, Korean, Thai…wait, there’s pages of this – I think I’ve made my point:) If you don’t need it spoken you can use Help2Speak (there may be VGA resolution issues) or Wolf’s Translator.
That’s all of the commercials actually. The difference is form over substance. iPhone has some standalone apps that are one-trick pony’s while the Windows applications are often bundled together so one app (like Google or Live Search) do what the iPhone has a few apps to do. And we all know that with the history of Windows Mobile there are multiples of more applications for Windows. The difference is the lack of glossy ads (and sometimes glossy interfaces). For each of the apps that I listed there are a few similar apps that do the same thing that I did not mention so please feel free to chime in and note your favorites in the comments.
And we shouldn’t forget that there are more than a good handful of serious apps that Windows Mobile has that the iPhone doesn’t (I won’t even start with multi-tasking, MMS, video, etc).
Let’s say I wanted to take a photograph of a business card and let my phone convert it to text and add it to my contacts then I’d just use World Card Mobile which is included on my Fuze.
Or maybe I wanted to navigate through my phone with my voice and even have my phone read my text messages out loud as well as my appointments, reminders and other items for a true hands free experience that’s almost identical to Ford’s ‘Sync’, then I’d just use Windows Voice Commander (also included and located under Settings).
If I wanted to have an Internet experience just like the iPhone I’d use Iris which runs on the same engine and views websites all iPhony but if I wanted the real real internet (you know with streaming media, flash, etc) then I’d use SkyFire.
And if I wanted to use hand writing on my phone and let it convert that to text I’d just change the onscreen keyboard to transcriber and it would do that.
If I wanted to compare prices of items by just snapping a photo of the barcode there’s an app for that called Barcorama.
Or I can take a photo of an object to figure out tis size with Dark Ruler.
If I wanted to print from my phone that’ll work out of the box (thanks to JetCet).
Listening to FM radio (the real one that’s local and not internet based radio) or viewing my Fuze on a television (even watching movies from my Fuze on a tv or using it for presentations) is no problem.
Streaming all of my music from my PC to my Fuze is no problem (Orb works as does Didiom).
Or if I wanted to know how far away the front, back or middle of the golf green is from my current gps location on over 700 courses I’d just use GudenSoft Golf GPS.
If I wanted to connect to my PC from my Fuze I would just use Remote Desktop Connection (included on my phone) or any of the third party apps like Remote Touch or GoToMyPC works. Of course if I was sitting next to my PC I could use MyMobiler to view my Fuze on My PC and use the keyboard and mouse to navigate my Fuze. And if I wanted to use my phone as a remote for my PC (gsen enabled air mouse, or use the keyboard, or use it like a joystick,or a drawing pad) then I’d use GRemote.
I could go on and on. In the end the claim that the apps are only on the iPhone is misleading at best but looking at the larger picture there are far more apps and tasks that Windows can do that the iPhone simply cannot do. Put all of the gimicks aside if you just compare OS to OS you’ll probably agree with the guys over at areamobile that Windows is more feature-packed. This posting has nothing to do with iPhone bashing – it’s actually about uplifting the lonely Windows Mobile phone. If the iPhone is so great with all of its apps then just imagine how great Windows is with all of the same apps (in some cases the Windows version was better) and all of these extra apps as well as a phone that isn’t locked by Apple, is fully customizable, has different form factors to choose from… You see with Windows it’s not just a phone, it’s your phone.
Now Microsoft – you’re finally getting the PC glossy ads going, now let’s see some glossy Windows Mobile ads already, ok?:)
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Comments
Don’t you get it? Apple is all about selling sizzle. All those commercials are novelties items to simply show the diversity of apps on the iPhone. Apple has a unified platform and controls what can and can’t be done with their hardware, be it computer or handset. Having a unified platform also gives them the latitude to advertise singular features on their device. WinMo is on all sorts of devices, which makes clear, concise advertising hard, especially when you consider there are probably a certain portion of the public who wouldn’t even know what Windows Mobile is.
I personally have an iPhone and love it, but I am also under no delusion that its a cut above BlackBerries, Android or WinMo phones. The reality is that all of these phones are great pieces of technology that are powerful enough to do nearly any task you ask of them.
the iphone is shinny thats why people buy it. a windows mobile device is made for someone with knowledge. the iphone however is ready to be used out the box which means any “noob” can get a hang of it. and there are many noobs out there.
I am so glad that i a not the only one!! everytime those commercials come on i say exactly that, yea i have that app, yeah i have that app….and most of the time they were free! its refreshing to know im not the only one who loathes those ads
what really gets me going, is not only do we all yell at the TV about how ridiculous those commercials are, and how ridiculous apps are that they are showing…. but we also get that smug satisfaction that we paid possibly less for a device that is far superior, more productive, can be modded to our hearts content, and everytime there is an app that is ‘only on the iphone’, we laugh because while iphone users paid for their apps from Big Brother, we have a community who is churning out apps faster and FREE then we can even imagine. (Im still waiting for the FuzeMobility commercials to hit the prime time…. Fuze Mobility? Yeah, theres an app for that too!)
Fantastic job, David. Excellent. Well written, comprehensive, funny, and helpful to both our phone maximizing and egos.
Time for me to dust off my ftp client and leech this onto my website. Problem with that is you wrote it better than I could have (plus it’s your work not mine). The other problem is it’s no longer a Sunday for me to spend on creating what ought to be a new chapter rather than squishing things into various existing sections. A little overwhelming.
If I ever need to retire from all of this I’ll be offering you guys the keys but it sounds like your hands are full.
Nice, David.
Doug
But the iPhone is an icon.
Windows Mobile PHONES (there are so many of them) that they’ll never have that status.
iPhone isn’t at all about capabilities it is about being in with the in crowd.
WinMob could never do that. Too many cooks in the kitchen and hands in the pot to really focus the brand – and you’re talking about an OS vs. a piece of something real. It’s the REAL stuff that becomes iconic – not the OS that drives it.
IMHO
Be that as it may, dgduris, there is a market for people who A) want the keyboard and all the other pros you’ll find in Fuze versus iphone googling, B) like to get under the hood both OS-wise, software wise and battery lid wise, C) want immediate zero day access to the works-in-progress software from the likes of the XDA community without an additional party filtering (and charging) for what you get, D) don’t want to pay for most of this, E) know how to find information like what this article contains to deck their phone out accordingly, F) are “business” types that steer away from a toy-esqe phone but stop short of vanilla Blackberries and G) either don’t care about being part of the exclusive club or even want to be a tad different when showing off the phone either in a subway or the office to be swayed by the Apple ads (the main theme song for which has become rather tired) — enough of a market for those people that HTC is and will continue to do all right along with the commercial developers like Chainfire (wmwifirouter), BeeLineGPS and the FlexMail people and perhaps websites such as this that blast out so much great work I can’t keep up with it.
Point being you make good point, but when you have a wealth of well-programmed and well-presented options at your disposal for dozens of different types of phones from which to choose to use all of that, you got a superior product that doesn’t require constant (or any in some cases, like Firefox) advertising. Hard to watch TV and not see an Apple advertisement. The cost of those add up even for a company with their muscle (btw I do own one share of Apple), not enough to break their margin but I’d rather be on the side with the product that quietly sells itself. And as an educated consumer obviously I’d rather be on that side too. On the other hand, I bought my girlfriend a Blackberry Pearl, didn’t even entertain the thought of getting her HTC/WinMo.
I started that paragraph intending to give a poignant rebuttal. I guess it’s suggesting iconoclasm in this context is underrated, something like that.
Doug
@Doug,
Yes. But the people you describe are not the iPhone target market. They are the WinMob target market. WinMob phone were the first smartphones (?!) that corporate IT types approved when they didn’t want to install blackberry servers (at least in the US). Now, everyone – everyone HATES their corporate IT guy, because they mostly say: “No.”
The iPhone is the anti-corporate IT guy phone. It’s about music and pictures and, well, if you can do a little bit of work on it, maybe you can get reimbursed for your purchase. The iPhone is the “stick it up your corporate arse” phone. WinMob just isn’t that market segment.
More importantly, WinMob is an OS (just the guts), the iPhone is a complete being (redheaded, stacked, athletic – whatever you prefer). An OS cannot act in the market place as can a complete product. Here in the States – and I guess around the world – HTC is the would be power brand WinMob phone. But HTC ISN’T WinMob, M$ is. And there are others: Toshiba, Asus, Garmin… So there is no one phone that IS the WinMob icon, like there is the iPhone to be the sole representative of OSX mobile or whatever they call it.
So, while we’re all frustrated that our style-conscious friends pray at the altar of the Jesus-phone and don’t realize the fuller abilities of our WinMob devices – that’s just the only way it can be…
…until the M$ laptop ads tie to the WinMob App store and that ties to a whole world of phones to choose from, regardless of your carrier. But Redmond isn’t internally coordinated enough to figure that stuff out.
ha ha ha WOW! Look at all you guys talking about the Iphone. I was one of these types of people, but I traded my fuze for one and I like it alot. Of course everyone I work with gave me a hard time about making the switch.
I admitted to them that I was wrong.
Lets talk more about the Iphone.
(don’t be mad)
There were two new ads put up yesterday that I saw on tv (make me think it was to counteract fuzemobility.com
). One was about being a business owner and being able to input credit card info for payment, being able to print out a shipping label, and track shipments. Can’t remember the second one now, but I know it isn’t listed above.
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There is no such thing as the best phone, only the best phone for YOU. Your best phone might not be the next person’s best phone.
Stop trying to make it sound like windows mobile users are all the smartest *ADMIN EDIT* around while iphone users are dumb apes. It pisses me off because the few dumb people who say this *ADMIN EDIT* makes the rest of us look like jackasses.
@chronster: I respect your opinion, but the language needed some editing, you can make your point well enough minus the language.
I disagree, I found the article very informative. It completely disects the Ads that APPLE themselves are running implying how great their device is. And it very well could be for some groups of people as you point out. But keep in mind this is a WinMo site and that is the angle EVERYTING we do here is written on.
As for making us look like jackasses, I completely disagree. Enormous energy went into this article and this site. David has worked incredibly hard to help our community. Posts where opinions are supported with facts such as this in no way underminds the WinMo community, just enhances it. It’s too bad someone pissed in your cherios today and you had leave comment like that.
Great article, but you’re comparing two different products here!
Let the iPhone kiddies have their fun. Eventually all the glamor of the iPhone wears off, and they have to jailbreak the sucker, and even THEN you are still limited.
In the meantime, I’ll be sitting back and enjoying my Jabra BT8010 stereo bluetooth streaming internet radio via coreplayer.
Besides, why bother even comparing the two. The only thing the iphone has going for it is that it’s not running a windows mobile OS
Hello David. I just have a quick question for you Sir. There is an app on iphone for charging/authorizing any credit card. Is there anything for fuze that compares ?? Did not know if you had any direction on that.
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That’s what I’m saying!!! In another forum (not phone or gadget related), we talked about the iPhone and someone posted, and I quote, “I do think it’s the best phone EVARR!…true, it can’t do basic things like other phones, but it CAN do a lot more that other phones can’t, and to me, that’s what makes the difference.” This is when the cut and paste feature finally came out. (roll eyes). Then I replied with something like, “let’s compare what THOSE FEATURES are.” Backed with the Fuze army (this site, of course) I was ready. But nobody took me up on the battle. Weak.